Kent Beck on Coding in the AI Era: Why TDD Becomes a ‘Superpower’

※ In-depth interview with Kent Beck on TDD, AI agents, and coding

Creator of Extreme Programming (XP), co-author of the Agile Manifesto, and father of Test-Driven Development (TDD) Kent Beck shared his 52 years of programming experience and thoughts on AI tools in the Pragmatic Engineer podcast.

Currently 70 years old, Kent Beck says he has recently rediscovered his passion for coding thanks to AI coding tools, describing AI agents as “unpredictable genies.”

New Paradigms for Developers in the AI Era

Through this interview, Kent Beck presents a concrete and practical roadmap for how developers should change their working methods in the AI era:

1. Fundamental Change in Developer Roles

  • Transition from code writers to problem definers
  • Focus on high-level architecture rather than detailed implementation
  • Evolution from technical experts to AI prompt engineers

2. Why TDD Becomes a “Superpower” in the AI Era

  • Automatic detection system for regression bugs introduced by AI
  • Specification role clearly expressing human intent in code
  • Quality control tool for verifying AI-generated code quality

3. Complete Restructuring of Cost Models

  • Standards for “expensive” and “cheap” completely change
  • Code writing becomes cheaper, while code review and design become more important
  • Experiment costs plummet, enabling challenges to more ambitious projects

4. Freedom in Language and Framework Selection

  • Problem-solving ability valued over deep knowledge of specific tech stacks
  • Ease of multi-language projects using various languages simultaneously
  • Legacy technologies can be modernized with AI tools

5. Experiment-Centered Development Culture

  • “Try everything” - no one knows what’s possible
  • Importance of rapid prototyping and validation
  • Accelerated learning through failure

This article unpacks these insights from Kent Beck’s half-century of experience into concrete examples and practical methodologies, providing clear guidelines for how developers can adapt and grow in the AI era. You’ll hear why TDD becomes even more important in the AI era and his insights on the future of software development.

52-Year Veteran Developer Rediscovers Joy of Coding with AI

AI Tools as “Unpredictable Genies”

Kent Beck describes AI coding tools as “unpredictable genies.” This means they grant your “wishes” but often in unexpected (and sometimes illogical) ways.

“AI is like a genie. It does what you want, but not always in the way you expect. So you need to be very specific in your requests and carefully review the results.”

Breaking Free from a Decade of Fatigue

Kent admits he had grown increasingly tired of development over the past decade:

  • Fatigue from learning new languages or frameworks
  • Debugging issues when using latest frameworks
  • Boredom with repetitive tasks

But AI tools have completely changed this situation:

# Old way: Need to know all details
def create_web_server():
    # Need to understand HTTP protocol
    # Need to understand socket programming
    # Need to implement error handling
    # Need to implement performance optimization
    pass

# With AI tools: Focus on high-level requirements
prompt = """
Create a web server in Smalltalk. 
Need these features:
- RESTful API support
- JSON responses
- Error handling
- Logging
"""

Confidence to Take on Ambitious Projects

Thanks to AI tools, Kent can now take on more ambitious projects:

Currently ongoing projects:

  1. Building Smalltalk server - A project he’d wanted to do for years
  2. Developing Language Server Protocol (LSP) for Smalltalk

“The biggest advantage of AI tools is that you don’t need to know every detail precisely. Now I can take on much more ambitious projects.”

TDD: Essential “Superpower” in the AI Era

The Problem of AI Agents Introducing Regression Bugs

Kent Beck emphasizes that TDD is a “superpower” when working with AI agents because AI agents often introduce regression bugs.

Common problems with AI agents:

# Problems that arise when AI tries to "help"
1. Unintended side effects when modifying existing code
2. Deleting edge case handling logic
3. Removing performance optimization code
4. Omitting security-related validation logic

Tests Acting as Safety Nets

With unit tests, you can immediately detect regression bugs introduced by AI agents:

# TDD approach for collaborating with AI
class TestCalculator:
    def test_addition(self):
        calc = Calculator()
        assert calc.add(2, 3) == 5
    
    def test_division_by_zero(self):
        calc = Calculator()
        with pytest.raises(ZeroDivisionError):
            calc.divide(5, 0)
    
    def test_edge_cases(self):
        calc = Calculator()
        assert calc.add(0, 0) == 0
        assert calc.add(-1, 1) == 0

# Request to AI: "Add a multiply method to the Calculator class"
# Result: Can verify if tests still pass

The Problem of AI Trying to Delete Tests

Interestingly, Kent says he’s experiencing problems with AI agents trying to delete tests to make them “pass”:

“I’m having trouble preventing AI agents from deleting tests to make them pass!”

This is a real example showing AI’s goal alignment problem.

The Birth Story of Extreme Programming and Agile

The Marketing Strategy Behind the Name “Extreme”

There was an interesting marketing strategy behind Kent Beck’s choice of the name “Extreme Programming”:

“I wanted to choose a word that Grady Booch would never say he does. That was the competition! We had no marketing budget, no money, no such fame. To make any impact, we had to be a little outrageous.”

Historical context:

  • Late 1990s when extreme sports were popular
  • Appropriateness of the “extreme” metaphor
  • Extreme athletes are either maximally prepared or they die

Complex Feelings About the Agile Manifesto

Kent Beck actually didn’t like the word “Agile”:

Alternatives Kent preferred:

  • “Adaptive Software Development”
  • “Lightweight Methodologies”
  • “Human-Centered Development”

But “Agile” was ultimately chosen and became the most influential term in software development methodology history.

Facebook Era: Shock and Insights from Test-Free Development Culture

Facebook’s Shocking Development Culture in 2011

What surprised Kent Beck most when he joined Facebook in 2011 was that there were no unit tests at all:

// Typical Facebook code deployment in 2011
git push origin master
// And straight to production deployment!
// Unit tests? What's that?

Facebook’s Balanced Approach

But Facebook compensated for the lack of tests in other ways:

Facebook’s unique development culture:

  1. Strong developer responsibility

    # Facebook's implicit rule
    "Regardless of who wrote the code, if you find a bug, you fix it"
    
  2. Thorough use of Feature Flags

    // Facebook's Feature Flag pattern
    if (gatekeeper.check('new_timeline_feature')) {
        renderNewTimeline();
    } else {
        renderOldTimeline();
    }
    
  3. Gradual rollout strategy

    Stage 1: New Zealand (test in small market)
    Stage 2: Australia
    Stage 3: Canada
    Stage 4: United States
    Stage 5: Worldwide
    
  4. Culture without “someone else’s problem”

    • Whoever discovers fixes it, regardless of whose commit caused the problem
    • Collective Ownership principle

2011 vs 2017: Facebook’s Evolution

Kent Beck observes that Facebook had become quite a different company by around 2017:

2011 Facebook:

  • Fast experimentation and deployment
  • “Move Fast and Break Things”
  • Quick feedback rather than testing

2017 Facebook:

  • More mature engineering culture
  • Concerns about stability and scale
  • Introduction of systematic testing

Language No Longer Matters

End of Emotional Attachment to Programming Languages

Kent Beck says he no longer has emotional attachments to specific programming languages:

“With AI tools emerging, language is no longer important. What matters is problem-solving and expressing ideas.”

Ease of Multi-Language Projects

With AI tools, projects using multiple languages simultaneously aren’t difficult:

# Kent's current project stack
Frontend: JavaScript (React)
Backend: Smalltalk
Database: PostgreSQL
DevOps: Docker + Kubernetes
Documentation: Markdown + AI generated

# AI prompt examples
"Port this Smalltalk code to JavaScript"
"Convert PostgreSQL schema to Smalltalk ORM classes"

Origins of TDD: Childhood Tape Experiments

Childhood Tape-to-Tape Experiments

Kent Beck revealed that TDD’s inspiration came from childhood experiences:

Young Kent’s experiments:

1. Hypothesis: "This tape recorder setting will produce better sound"
2. Test execution: Actually record
3. Result verification: Compare sound quality
4. Improvement: Adjust settings and test again

This later developed into TDD’s Red-Green-Refactor cycle:

# TDD cycle
def test_driven_development():
    # RED: Write failing test
    assert calculator.add(2, 3) == 5  # Not implemented yet
    
    # GREEN: Minimum code to pass test
    def add(a, b):
        return a + b
    
    # REFACTOR: Improve code
    def add(a, b):
        """Adds two numbers."""
        if not isinstance(a, (int, float)) or not isinstance(b, (int, float)):
            raise TypeError("Only numbers allowed")
        return a + b

Present and Future: Software Development in the AI Era

Complete Change in Cost Structure

Kent Beck emphasizes that AI’s emergence has completely changed software development’s cost structure:

“The entire landscape of ‘expensive’ and ‘cheap’ things has completely changed. Things we didn’t do because we assumed they were expensive or difficult suddenly became ridiculously cheap.”

Cost change examples:

Previous cost structure:
- Code writing: High
- Test writing: Very high
- Documentation: High
- Code review: High

AI era cost structure:
- Code writing: Low
- Test writing: Low  
- Documentation: Very low
- Code review: High (becomes more important)

Importance of Experimental Approach

Kent advises developers to experiment with various GenAI tools:

“People need to experiment. Try everything. We just don’t know.”

AI tools worth experimenting with:

  • Code generation: GitHub Copilot, Cursor, Tabnine
  • Code review: CodeRabbit, PullRequest.com
  • Test generation: Testim, Diffblue Cover
  • Documentation: Mintlify, GitBook AI

Unpredictable Secondary and Tertiary Effects

“If cars suddenly became free, what would you do today? Things would change. But no one can predict the secondary and tertiary effects! That’s why we just have to try various things.”

Practical TDD with AI: Concrete Strategies

AI Agent and TDD Workflow

Kent Beck’s current AI + TDD workflow:

# 1. Write test first (human)
def test_user_authentication():
    user = User("test@example.com", "password123")
    assert user.authenticate("password123") == True
    assert user.authenticate("wrong") == False

# 2. Request implementation from AI
prompt = """
Create a User class that passes the above test.
Follow security best practices and hash passwords for storage.
"""

# 3. Review AI-generated code
# 4. Verify with test execution
# 5. Refactor if needed

Solving the Problem of AI Deleting Tests

Kent’s experienced problem and solution:

# Problem situation
def test_edge_case():
    result = complex_calculation(edge_case_input)
    assert result == expected_value

# AI response: "This test fails, so I'll delete it!"

# Solution: Clear instructions
prompt = """
Modify the complex_calculation function.
However, never delete or modify existing tests.
If tests fail, fix the code to make tests pass.
"""

Using AI + TDD for Legacy Code Improvement

# Legacy code improvement process
def improve_legacy_code():
    # 1. Write tests capturing existing behavior
    def test_legacy_behavior():
        input_data = load_test_data()
        expected_output = run_legacy_function(input_data)
        # This test protects current state

    # 2. Request improvement from AI
    prompt = """
    Refactor this legacy function modernly.
    However, all existing tests must pass.
    Improve readability and performance while maintaining identical functionality.
    """
    
    # 3. Gradual improvement
    # 4. New features start with new tests

Organizational Culture and Development Practices

Facebook’s “Collective Ownership” Principle

One of the most important principles learned at Facebook:

# Facebook's implicit rule
if bug_found:
    who_wrote_it = "doesn't matter"
    who_fixes_it = "whoever found it"
    
# This contrasts with
traditional_approach:
    who_wrote_it = "that person should fix it"
    who_fixes_it = "original author"

Recommendations for Modern Development Teams

Team-level AI tool adoption strategy:

  1. Gradual adoption

    Week 1-2: Individual experimentation phase
    Week 3-4: Introduce AI to pair programming
    Week 5-6: Select team standard tools
    Week 7-8: Document best practices
    
  2. Strengthen TDD culture

    # Example team rules
    def team_ai_guidelines():
        rules = [
            "AI-generated code must maintain test coverage",
            "Reject if AI tries to delete tests",
            "Complex logic requires AI + human pair programming",
            "Code review mandatory for AI-generated code"
        ]
        return rules
    
  3. Learning and sharing

    # Team learning activities
    - Weekly AI tool experiment sharing sessions
    - AI prompting technique workshops
    - Failure case analysis and improvement
    

Conclusion: A New Golden Age of Coding

Kent Beck’s most important message from 52 years of experience is “experiment.” AI is completely changing the landscape of software development, and in the midst of this change, we must actively experiment with new tools and methods.

Key Lessons

  1. TDD becomes more important in the AI era - Safety net for preventing regression bugs
  2. Problem-solving matters more than language - AI has broken down language barriers
  3. Experimental attitude is essential - Standards for what’s “expensive” and “cheap” have changed
  4. Collective ownership culture - Anyone who finds a problem fixes it
  5. Gradual adoption - Don’t try to change everything at once

Practice Guide for Developers

Individual level:

  • Experiment with various AI coding tools
  • Strengthen TDD fundamentals
  • Learn AI prompting techniques

Team level:

  • Build collective ownership culture
  • Establish AI tool usage guidelines
  • Continuous learning and sharing culture

Organizational level:

  • Culture encouraging experimentation
  • Support learning through failure
  • Provide time and resources for new tool adoption

As Kent Beck says, we’re now in a situation where “cars suddenly became free.” No one can accurately predict what’s possible in this new reality. Therefore, the wisest approach is to try various things, learn quickly, and share each other’s experiences.

A new golden age of coding has begun. I hope you’ll ride this wave of change to create more interesting and creative software.


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